Antoine Walker and O'B

[RWB]

Under let's throw stuff at the wall to see if it sticks category. A discussion about unloading Walker to the Ps.

http://www.benmaller.com/

The Pacers do have several contracts as unpalatable as Antoine Walker's deal, which pays $8.5 million next season. The difference is Mike Dunleavy Jr. ($8.2 million next season) and Troy Murphy ($9.2 million next season) each have three additional seasons remaining. By contrast, after next season, Walker has only one additional guaranteed year on his Heat contract. And one thing the Heat has done especially well over the years is not chase bad money with even worse money. It is just one of the aspects that has separated the Heat from the Knicks. Still, when the Pacers get busy, keep in mind they will be working with a coach whose career flourished with Walker at his side.

[Slick Pinkham]

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Walker has almost nothing left. Another thread talks about Austin Croshere.

At this point in time,

Austin > Antoine

sad but true

[Ragnar]

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Wow I dont want Walker. The question is would I take walker to get rid of either Murphy or Dunleavy. Walker is every bit as worthless of a player as those two but he has a shorter contract.

I have no idea but at this point why trade one bucket of crap for another.

[Trader Joe]

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You know how some people say acquiring so and so would make me reconsider being a Pacer fan. Antoine Walker is the one player in the NBA capable of making me do that.

[FlavaDave]

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I hate Antoine Walker. I would totally take him in return for Murphy/Dunleavy, preferably Murphy (and especially if we trade JO and go young).

[naptownmenace]

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Dunleavy >>>> Walker

I hate how Dunleavy gets thrown in to these discussions. He's not a bad player he just has a bad contract. I thought his play at the end of the season was very good and he, Shawne, and Granger play very well when on the floor at the same time.

[FlavaDave]

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Dunleavy >>>> Walker

I hate how Dunleavy gets thrown in to these discussions. He's not a bad player he just has a bad contract. I thought his play at the end of the season was very good and he, Shawne, and Granger play very well when on the floor at the same time.

Agreed. But Mike will never be an asset on an NBA team. He is solid, but he doesn't add anything in particular and can be replaced fairly easily. Therefore, I am in favor of doing whatever to clear his salary off the books.

8 million in cap room is more important to this team than a 28% 3-pt shooting SG.

[RWB]

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Dunleavy >>>> Walker

I hate how Dunleavy gets thrown in to these discussions. He's not a bad player he just has a bad contract.

According to Rakestraw last night on WTHR Dunleavy makes almost twice as much as Tinsley. Dunleavy get's thrown into discussions because the talking heads have to say or print something.

[Slick Pinkham]

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8 million in cap room is more important to this team than a 28% 3-pt shooting SG.

Trading Dunleavy for Walker would not save a single cent until 3 years from now and would add an absolutely horrible player who thinks he deserves lots of playing time into the mix.

[FlavaDave]

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Trading Dunleavy for Walker would not save a single cent until 3 years from now and would add an absolutely horrible player who thinks he deserves lots of playing time into the mix.

It would actually be two years (instead of four for Dunleavy).

So we would be cutting Dun's contract in half.

I still say it is a good move, especially if we can get Miami to throw in a warm body or some second rounders or something.

I will say that I would much prefer they take Murphy. He has four years left, also.

[avoidingtheclowns]

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I will say that I would much prefer they take Murphy. He has four years left, also.

thats the only scenario in which i would consider it but miami probably wouldn't. walker makes less per year than murphy and has two less years. not sure what miami gets out of it other than moving a malcontent.

i hate crybaby walker. always have, always will. but from a financial standpoint i would at least consider murphy for walker.

[FlavaDave]

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Another possibility is Tinsley for Williams. Jamaal has four years left and Jason has only one.

Maybe Jamaal and Troy for Williams and Walker? Then we would have three bad contract years instead of 8.

[Jermaniac]

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Fatoine is better then Murphy and Dunleavy. I would trade those 2 for any player in the NBA with a little bit of a better contract then them, any player. If a NBA player goes to jail and he has a better contract then Dunleavy I would trade Dunleavy for that player.

[ajbry]

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Hell no, I don't want any part of Fatoine and his declining ***. **** that.

At his peak he was never anything special and certainly nothing Pacers fans are looking for. Now he's rapidly declined and his statistics from last year don't even reflect how terrible he looks on the floor.

I don't want Murphy or Dunleavy and I'm already sick of them, but I don't want Fatoine under any circumstances.

[Ragnar]

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Fatoine is better then Murphy and Dunleavy. I would trade those 2 for any player in the NBA with a little bit of a better contract then them, any player. If a NBA player goes to jail and he has a better contract then Dunleavy I would trade Dunleavy for that player.

Clearly thats how Golden State felt. Of course we also gave them Al and Powell. And not to mention Jack at least has talent.